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Hi. I removed the comment from Emax, since he is not allowed to edit while blocked. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR for my comments regarding your question about the number of reverts. Thanks -- Chris 73 Talk 11:31, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)

Daniel Demaret[edit]

Hi. Thank you for your suggestions about "An autobiography". I just followed an existing link from the Nehru page, decided to fill in the page, since I have read the book, and only then realized that "An autobiography" might be an ambiguous title. Perhaps one should create a new title "Nehru: An Autobiography" ?.

And then change the original page from the "Nehru"-page? Dare I change that?

The Nehru referred to in this case was the first prime minister of India, a splendid and humble man.

I have a similar problem when I filled in something on the Berlitz family. There is a link to "Maximilien Berlitz", but his name was Miximilian. Can I "move" the link? Or should I delete the entire article, and then create a new one with the correct name? I know a lot more about him, some from his grandson, also he, coincidentally a very splendid and humble man.

Oh, and can I have a "talk" side like this?

thank you MacGyver![edit]

Thank you! Can I send you messages too? Like the ones in the orange bar that you sent to me? My brother-in-law, Bo Leuf gave me his "Wiki Way", but I dont seem to recall the "wikipedia way" in that book. DanielDemaret 12:44, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

re: anon[edit]

I got a mixed impression, and I may have been too harsh on him. In retrospect I saw that he did make some contributions rather than vandalism, although what made me trigger a warning was the fact that he removed a chunk from the rape accusation article which (I thought) made it look like just one side of the case was presented. Inter 10:09, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

frozen template[edit]

hi there. since you added the four new "did you know" items, there are several little grammatical errors which i can't change because the front page has been "frozen". if you are able to fix them, they are:

  • "had" returned
  • ...crucifixion,in (without the comma, it means he was crucified IN that particular verse of the bible)
  • "the" tv series
  • elephants' or "an elephant's"

I think these are all correct. At least please check them out.Sfahey 03:32, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for the link to the style page, and the aesthetic boost to the page.

Re: Image on Commons[edit]

Er.. I didn't say that (I haven't edited template:did you know or its talk page in months). It seems an anonymous user ( said it; but I agree with you, in that it shouldn't be hard to get a Commons admin to protect it. If I had known uploading the picture to Commons would be troublesome I wouldn't have done it, but it is "strongly recommended" or so the upload screen says. :) -- Hadal 11:51, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)


On Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress, in the reply to my complaint about the vandal, you said: "User: may be blocked for not editing according to the NPOV rule following an arb com ruling. Feel free to block if evidence is presented/found."

I am not an administrator and can't do that. Probably you don't have a lot of time, however because you are an administrator and the only one to reply to my comment, could you nevertheless have a look at this user's talk page and Opus Dei history page and block him or at least do something appropriate?

To understand the context, also read Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/User: and other accounts.

Thanks! Eleassar777 15:31, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Please take a look at the history of the Atheism article[edit]

Sam_Spade has been vandalizing the atheism article today, and seems bent on insisting on completely rewriting the article to suit his POV against consensus. He's reverted once already. Please have a look and consider protecting the article again. I see no other option to prevent Sam from engaging in more vandalism.--FeloniousMonk 17:36, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

LMLK seal clarification[edit]

In response to your question, yes, you can view impressions of the actual seals, so I'll clarify that sentence. Thanks! I'm brand new to Wikipedia, so please be patient with me if I make a mistake--I'm not even sure this is the proper way to respond to you. Funhistory 19:11, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Signpost article updates[edit]

Feel free to tack it onto the article yourself, if you would like to. You probably know what's going on as well as I do. --Michael Snow 20:05, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Audible reply[edit]

You left a question on my talk page a few weeks ago. To reply: No I don't know any more about Audible. There was a red link to this (I think from the iPod page) and I had heard of the company, so I put the one fact that I knew and a link in. (I hope I did this talk comment right, since its my first.) Gagewyn 04:48, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Wikiportals article[edit]

Yes, I would love to get a report on this for the next issue. If you're trying to figure out how much of a story is there, some ideas to consider: How does the concept relate to existing stuff like WikiProjects and the various noticeboards? With respect to the Biology Wikiportal specifically, the Tree of Life WikiProject is perhaps the single best-known WikiProject out there. How do Wikiportals work in the other languages where they've been started? (assuming you can research that - I could take a glance at some if you like.) I haven't looked into them yet, but my impression is that Wikiportals might be a cross between noticeboards, which are mostly region-specific, and WikiProjects - sort of like a topic-oriented noticeboard for a general subject area, maybe.

In terms of the mechanics - so far, articles have generally been prepared in user subpages, then moved into the Signpost space when they get "published". --Michael Snow 17:33, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Did you know[edit]

Looking at the edit history for Template:Did you know, it appears you've taken on the responsibility of updating it. Is this true? I'm watching it, but I'm not familiar with it and don't want to commit a faux pas by pushing out content too soon or something. If you're taking care of it, though, I won't worry about the template, unless it goes without being updated for a while. --Slowking Man 23:35, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)

I have replied to your message on my Talk page. --Slowking Man 21:03, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)

Re Stude62[edit]

What I meant to say was that I have an email that he sent to my personal account in which he called me an idiot. About your second comment and the argument. I can only point to several changes that he made to the OWU page that are factually incorrect. It will be induspatable by anyone who knows anything by the University. The first one was some odd inclusion about a Methodist Female Seminary, which not surprisingly yields no results on google. The second was an affiliation with the Methodist Episcopal Church, which the University itself does not claim. (in all historical documents, there is a mention of three founders who were Methodist, though nowhere in University publications have I noticed their affiliation with the Methodist Episcopal the way, that was not the only Methodist denomination at the time). These are all changes that were made by Stude62. They are easily locatable if you look at the history of his changes. I know you don't have the time, but right now I am a bit busy myself. It will probably take me 30 mins to find them on the history. I will try to see if I can locate his change although right now I value my alternatives more than the half hour that I'd spend trying to find them again. )

  • I think a perfectly simple way to solve this is to have a neutral, third party Wikipedian (McGyverMagic, maybe, or someone in the States involved with the mediation program) call the University archives themselves and verify the information regarding the relationship between the M.E. Church and OWU. The archives are available (Monday, Wednesday and I think Fridays, 9-4:30 with an hour for lunch between 12-1 EST) by calling the main university telephone number and asking for the archives on the second floor of the Beegley Library. The university's archivist (and the archivist for the Archives of Ohio United Methodism, which is also located in what they described as the "cage") are more than happy to provide FACTS on this matter. If I am wrong, I will apologize for what is wrong, but if is wrong, I expect an apology for what he has gotten wrong. Can we agree on this? user: stude62 user talk:stude62 23:04, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)


The page is very slow for me. -- AllyUnion (talk) 13:22, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

  • I'm mostly tagging at the moment anyway. You can go ahead and perform the necessary maintainance if I didn't do it. -- AllyUnion (talk) 13:35, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • Wikipedia taking too long to load on my end. Going to take a long break. -- AllyUnion (talk) 14:53, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ugh. What a pain the arse... WP:VFD/Old that is. -- AllyUnion (talk) 06:22, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi MGM — just to let you know, I listed myself as a participant of the Magic project. I know a bit about coin magic, and would be able to add some articles on the different slights of hand, trick coins and so on, and can help keep an eye on the others. Probably won't be able to be super active, though... — Asbestos | Talk 17:22, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Your wikiportal looks great! As for Do you know... template, it's for stuff from newly added articles, so if you see a new article with some interesting stuff connected with the portal's topic, just add it there. Ausir 17:44, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Re : Welcome Message[edit]

It's at User:Mailer_diablo/Welcome. Feel free to use this boilerplate message, but note that the user's name and your signature has to be added manually. :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 03:53, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Please put templates like {{expansion}} that only are useful to editors, on talk pages (the only exception I can think of would be the different stub templates). Thank you. :) --mav 08:44, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Please ignore mav's request. He/she has been making this request to many users but it is counter to policy as stated on the very page that she refers people to, which is as follows:
However, there are exceptions to this. In particular, an article which is still in its initial development or under dispute often will include tags such as "stub", "npov", and "expansion" to help editors further develop the article, and the text in these templates include self-references. Try, however, to limit such self-references, even in templates.
Philip 10:52, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Actually, the creator simply recreated it on top of your deletion (I think he was still working on it at the time), so I put it up for VfD instead.

By the way, I notice you recently deleted Myg0t (content was: '{{mediawiki:noarticletext}}'). That was one of User:Fvw's tricks, to make a page look empty but protected (since you can't protect a non-existent page). He first used it on Kash Jaffrey if I'm not mistaken. -- Curps 11:32, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a lot![edit]

I appreciated your help on the math portal. I'll use the wikiportal template in the future; I wish I knew it was there earlier :)

Yeah, I meant to finish the wikiportal, but I fell asleep. That's what I get, I guess, for thinking I can stay up all night. ral315 12:00, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

Edit: I'm going to start work on the Politics Wikiportal later today; would you be willing to go over it when I'm done? I'm from the U.S., so having a European voice on the page would make it a lot less U.S.-centric. ral315 12:03, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

Unknown thingee[edit]

That's okay. Thanks for trying! – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 12:56, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Can you add Template:Vfd to your watchlist if you haven't already done so? Some anon IP likes to vandalize it by changing "blank" to "bugger". A hassle because it gets subst'd in. I'm sending notes to get more people to add it to their watchlists. -- Curps 19:58, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

New Mathematics Wikiportal[edit]

I noticed you've done some work on Mathematics articles. I wanted to point out to you the new Mathematics Wikiportal- more specifically, to the Mathematics Collaboration of the Week page. I'm looking for any math-related stubs or non-existant articles that you would like to see on Wikipedia. Additionally, I wondered if you'd be willing to help out on some of the Collaboration of the Week pages.

I encourage you to vote on the current Collaboration of the Week, because I'm very interested in which articles you think need to be written or added to, and because I understand that I cannot do the enormous amount of work required on some of the Math stubs alone. I'm asking for your help, and also your critiques on the way the portal is set up.

Please direct all comments to my user-talk page, the Math Wikiportal talk page, or the Math Collaboration of the Week talk page. Thanks a lot for your support! ral315 02:54, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

Postvfd template[edit]

I have created a postvfd template. This is to be used with the subst: so it can be left on discussion pages. The use is: {{subst:postvfd|date=January 2005|result=delete|sig=--~~~~}}. I would like to finalize the template before using it. Please correct the template as you see fit. -- AllyUnion (talk) 05:08, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Shia LaBeouf[edit]

No article yet. He is a teen actor, he is 18, and I dont know much aboutn him, but he was on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno a few times, and was in Holes, I, Robot, and is in the new Constantine. IMDb: Shia LaBeouf. I am iterested in starting the article on him, but im not sure. Can you put it on your user page, maybe you or someone else will decide to write it first. AlexTheMartian 06:21, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)

OOPS! lol, well, it is a stub actually, didnt know it even existed Shia LaBeouf, still needs to be expanded, and I am about to do that. AlexTheMartian 06:44, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)


I got it taken care of. Annoying grunt work that was... I can tell when VFD is broken immediately... because of User:AllyUnion/VFD List. If the table of contents is anything different or the page is out of the format that I specified, then I immediately know something is wrong with the VFD page. -- AllyUnion (talk) 15:13, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)


No worries. I was mostly just amusing myself with newpages when I saw that well-done article and thought to add it. Next time I'll add some of the suggested ones also. zoney talk 16:57, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Here are some bits of information I picked up.

  • Based on the interlanguage links, Polish has Wikiportals but not Wikiprojects, which is interesting given that Ausir is Polish.
  • The French page about WikiProjects indicates that they're supposed to be for coordinating issues across different Wikipedias. The German and English pages about WikiProjects say that they're for collaborating in a particular subject area within Wikipedia, with no allusion to other languages. WikiProject Tree of Life has some sense of being multilingual, I would say, and duplication of this effort was one of the concerns raised about Wikispecies. Anyway, there's some uncertainty about whether the function is coordinating efforts so that different languages get similar content, or the probably more common practice of coming up with standard infoboxes and such within one Wikipedia.
  • French and German have more Wikiportals, but the Polish ones are generally the most advanced in terms of visual design and layout. The template being used here is clearly closer to the Polish standard than the haphazard formats of other languages.
  • Overall, Wikiportals look like pages to guide you someplace else, as befits a "portal". WikiProjects seem more like working pages. The portals are almost like mini-versions of the Main Page for a particular subject area, although their visual resemblance to the Main Page is stronger in other languages than English.

Anyway, I don't know how long of an article you expect to get, but there's certainly been quite a proliferation of portals here, and that alone is worth mentioning. Thanks for your work. --Michael Snow 23:18, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Yes, I got the message, thanks. I haven't had time to look at the article itself in much detail yet. But one thing you might want to mention is this message Ausir wrote on the wikipedia-l mailing list. --Michael Snow 23:52, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Bakla VfD[edit]

I didn't know that I did change the date stamp, but what happened was that before I could save my comment, someone else saved one, so you get this funny page where you have to cut and paste your comments from one box to another and then hit save again. Perhaps this results in 2 time stamps? Beats me. HowardB 09:24, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Almost ready[edit]

Nice fix, thanks. I've made some more edits to bring it to a reasonably final version. As I understood, you didn't want me to just move the page out of your user space. Instead, you can copy the article as it is now to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2005-02-14/Wikiportals, then I'll include it when I put up all the new articles in a few minutes. --Michael Snow 10:22, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Honeysuckle Weeks[edit]

Wow, that was quick; I was interrupted in the middle of starting the article, and when I look back it's been edited by two other people. I wish the other articles I've started attracted that much interest — I'm normally the only person who seems bothered with them. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 14:15, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

  • She was apparently given her name because the scent of honeysuckle was particularly strong when she was born. I didn't put that in, as it seemed to make it sound more like a fan page. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:58, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Guide topics[edit]

Oh my goodness yes, thank you for the reminder. The last time I did much work on the guide, {deletebecause} didn't exist. But I agree 100%--the more info the tagger can provide the admins, the better. Especially when it comes to images--you don't tell me why, and I probably won't delete it. I have added some text, altho' I may come up with something better when I'm actually awake (right now its about 6am here, and I probably will try to get a bit more sleep before I really wake up for the day). Niteowlneils 15:07, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)


MacGyver Magic... I found your post at Ludraman's in regards to Gmail; I was wondering if I may have an invite for a pair - if still available that is. Thanks. PEACE ~ RoboAction 06:39, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the post on my talk page
I sent you an email by clicking on the side bar 'E-mail this user'... I was wondering if you received my message; let me know either way. I appreciate it. ~ RoboAction 19:18, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Wikiportals originated at the German Wikipedia. The first one was a law portal started in October 2003. Then it spread to French, Dutch and Japanese Wikipedias. Then I created the first portal at the Polish Wikipedia in 2004. Then it spread a bit more, and while I talked to some en: users who said it's a great idea, eventually none of them started one. So I decided to do it myself. And others followed... As for the distinction between projects and portals, portals are much more reader-oriented and cover wider topics, so they often encompass more than one project. By the way, all en: portals are based on the design I copied from pl:, made by pl:User:Adziura. Ausir 18:47, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Wikiportals on main page[edit]

I saw that you had put a suggestion on the main page discussion about linking to the Wikiportals. I reakky think we should do that, Wikiportals are great things. And I also disagree that they arn't ready, they certainly are. The main objection to wikiportals was that they were too "editor-oriented". In that spirit, I threw together a small page in my userspace to function as an introduction to wikiportals (it isn't done in any way, it just illustrates my idea). It can be found here. My thought was to link that one to the main page.

So what do you think?

Gkhan 22:10, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)


To whom it may concern,

I admit to the vandalism under this IP, done out of anger but to make amends I have expanded a bunch of articles, wikified them, and even added some photos.

Culture of Zimbabwe

Culture of Uruguay

Military of Ghana

And I also plan to expand

History of Africa

History of Islam

The IP I was under was the school's. Please unblock that IP and block mine if need be.

my apologies

Vincent Gray 03:29, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice[edit]

Dear Mac: Thanks for the advice. Its true, I had been putting the NOT FINISHED YET message on my most recent articles, reason being my computer is quick to turn off and sometimes ruins my articles so I go step by step.

I didnt know about the template but IM gonna try to use it all the time from now on.

Thanks and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, "Antonio Crazy Machine Martin"


I start at the bottom of the list, you start at the top. How's that? -- Chris 73 Talk 15:02, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

User name[edit]

For curiosity, what User name did the Willy have this time?? Georgia guy 15:01, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Excellent work, but while we're on the subject, I'd like to help out on any later occasions - but how would I go about it? Page moves don't show up in edit histories, making it impossible to find out that way who the perpetrator is, and I don't see any other way to find or track 'em if the moves are no longer showing on Recent Changes. -- Kizor 15:07, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
(sorry for the delay, had to answer the phone) I have the same problem, but I don't know any solution. However, I'll start right now to write a proposal to turn on the page move after xxx edits only option. It is already in the mediawiki software, but set to 0. -- Chris 73 Talk 15:10, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)
Please have a look at the proposal at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Min edit count, and the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Requested moves/Min edit count for the min edit count -- Chris 73 Talk 15:40, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

VfD/Old needs some MacGyver's Magic[edit]

We're clogged up again on WP:VFD/Old. Maybe you can help make it disappear? -- AllyUnion (talk) 09:27, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Copyright Problems[edit]

What do you do to get rid of the back log here? I can't find a procedure on what to do. Mgm|(talk) 13:57, Feb 21, 2005 (UTC)

Not sure. I don't know the process either. Infrogmation and rbrwr seem to know the process better than I do. I would assume that the new requests need to be confirmed with the url that has been placed in the copyvio notice, and if a temp article has been written and that isn't a copyvio, then it can be merged/moved back into the main article space. If a url hasn't been specified, then I suppose you message the user who placed the copyvio notice, and if they don't respond, then I suppose you can remove the copyvio notice and revert the article back. -- AllyUnion (talk) 14:48, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)